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Subject: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:11 pm
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Rig Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:38 pm
being an ex rasta i'm torn but gonna have to go with the beatles, still they are the pinnacle of what a band can achieve and great songs/image/marketability. although reckon it would have been much easier back in their day, do you think they'd make it today?
Jimatay Mod
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:30 pm
quick answer....no
Corky Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:29 pm
Rig wrote:
although reckon it would have been much easier back in their day, do you think they'd make it today?
I think they would have but not at the scale that they did back then..... however i think Bob Marley and The Wailers would be just as inspirational if they came out tomorrow.
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:59 pm
I have 100% respect for the beatles as songwriters but nothing else really.......
so its bob marley on the basis of lyrics and the fact that he has more soul in his voice than lennon and macartney put together
his lyrics have helped people for generations
the beatles were simply to cheesy for me to fall in love with, the take that of the 60s
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:55 pm
Man, you talk an ICREDIBLE amount of bollocks Stef! You really have failed the grasp the social impact in history of the Beatles.
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:03 pm
i love you George
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:06 pm
course i can see how they changed the way music is writtern and produced, but it dont mean everyone has to like them.
they wrote bad lyrics and they had weak souless voices.....so i dont think they are the best band ever on that basis.
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Boris The Spider Super Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:09 pm
George had a lovely voice.
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:30 pm
i reckon the best band ever should tick most boxes
lryrics? vocals? great musicans? great songwriters? an ability to write good songs over a long period of time? unique? original? pioneering? great performers?
the beatles dont tick the top 2 boxes and maybe the 3rd one is debatable.......so i really struggle to see how they can be classed as the best band ever
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:47 pm
Stef wrote:
i reckon the best band ever should tick most boxes -
lyrics?
I have always said and still say that lyrics are the least important part of a song. The melody and general structure of the song are far more important, obviously if you have a good melody and good song structure coupled with good lyrics it makes a good song even better, but lyrics aren't the be all and end all. The fact that the beatles' songs have shit lyrics doesn't mean a thing to me, because they were all about the melody and the harmonies, and for those reasons, that is why the beatles' songs were so catchy. I think it's why people find themselves (and don't deny it cool kids) singing or humming naughty pop tunes like cheryl cole (which has been my subconscious song of choice today), because of the melody
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:52 pm
i know youve always said this danny
but lyrics are important
for me the melody and structure gets you in,but the lyrics take you deeper.
a good melody with bad lyrics for me is like eating chips without salt and vinegar...........yeah it may taste ok but it dont COMPLETELY satisfy
Boris The Spider Super Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:03 pm
They haven't even got shit lyrics though.
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:08 pm
if my 12 year old neice wrote these lyrics fair enough, but the best band ever? surely not
Love, love me do. You know I love you, I'll always be true, So please, love me do. Whoa, love me do.
Love, love me do. You know I love you, I'll always be true, So please, love me do. Whoa, love me do.
Someone to love, Somebody new. Someone to love, Someone like you.
Love, love me do. You know I love you, I'll always be true, So please, love me do. Whoa, love me do.
Love, love me do. You know I love you, I'll always be true, So please, love me do. Whoa, love me do. Yeah, love me do. Whoa, oh, love me do.
Boris The Spider Super Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:12 pm
Sorry, I forgot the only song they ever wrote lyrics to was love me do.
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:25 pm
its a well known fact in music circles that the beatles lyrics were dumb.
to me its obvious they just put lyrics to most of the songs that meant nothing.....just to fill the spaces
not all of them, but most
anyway im bored now arguing the most obvious arguement of all time that "the beatles were actually not perfect"
comon bob comon bob
Dale Admin
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:23 pm
But you keep referencing early Beatles, there later stuff had so much more depth.
And I debate this bad vocal arguement, all fantastic tone and character.
Mr Stuart Fanatic
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:04 pm
Oh yeah, I´ll tell you something I think you'll understand When I say that something I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand
Oh, please, say to me You'll let me be your man and please, say to me
You'll let me hold your hand Now let me hold your hand I wanna hold your hand
And when I touch you i feel happy, inside It's such a feeling That my love I can't hide I can't hide I can't hide
Yeah you, got that something I think you'll understand When I say that something I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand
And when I touch you I feel happy, inside It's such a feeling That my love I can't hide I can't hide I can't hide
Yeah you, got that something I think you'll understand When I say that something I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your hand I wanna hold your ha-a-a-a-a-a-and
another inspirational song there! - Bob all the way!
Lyrics are everything, otherwise the feeling and scouting for girls are AMAZING bands purely because they have very hummable tunes.
Beatles are decent and that but if you played me a random beatles song theres probably a 50/50 chance i'd like it, surely not good enough for a best band ever
Jimatay Mod
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:09 pm
Beatles are the only band to go from a poppy boy band to a decent rock n roll band and do it well. Plus they opened so many doors for later bands.
bob introduced reggae....well done but not enough
Dr Brackish Okun Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:17 pm
Both are fucking brilliant. This should easily be the final.
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:13 am
add 10 wisdom points to mrstuart
stef Super Fan
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:21 am
Drivdac wrote:
But you keep referencing early Beatles, there later stuff had so much more depth.
And I debate this bad vocal arguement, all fantastic tone and character.
never said bad vocals.......i think they can both hold tunes of course
but neither lennon or mcartney had soul in their voice.....thats why most decent beatles covers with great singers piss on the originals....
eg joe cocker - with a little help from my friends
lennon and mcartney = limited vocal ranges, no power, no soul, no moments in their songs send shivers down my spine cause they lack the ability to move you, yes they can sing in tune and decently i agree
they are both 7/10 singers
Dale Admin
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:52 pm
Well Ringo sang that song for a start...
Here are some awesome Beatles songs for you haters to enjoy.
Boris The Spider Super Stalker
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:06 pm
George is amazing.
Dale Admin
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Subject: Re: Bob Marley and The Wailers vs The Beatles *SEMI FINAL* Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:07 pm
You have to love this one Stef, no soul my feckin' arse!
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